114 – Epileptic Prophet Part 6 | OCD VIOLENCE HYPERGRAPHIA FAMOUS CASES

This episode is the 6th installment in the series ‘The Epileptic Prophet’ in which Abdullah Gondal and I tackle the question of Muhammad’s mental health and possible epilepsy. Our aim is to provide an alternative explanation to  Muhammad’s supposed prophethood from a neurological perspective. In this episode, we explore Muhammad’s possible OCD, violence, and hypergraphia.

We started the episode by discussing Muhammad’s narcissism. We presented an excerpt of an interview by Dr. Ali Sina in which he explains Muhammad’s narcissistic traits and possible causes for such levels of narcissism. Gondal and I then went on to talk about Muhammad’s delusions of grandeur.

The conversation then moved on to Muhammad’s hallucinations including his purported friendship with angel Gabriel. We went through various hadith and seerah which document such hallucinations. Another issue we discussed is Muhammad’s supposed visions and how questionable his claims are. We talked about the hadith in which the angel Gabriel supposedly visited Muhammad and taught him how to pray and perform ablution. Lastly, we compared the hallucinations and visions to those of contemporary epileptic patients who also have OCD and hypergraphia.

We ended the conversation on the topic of violence and epilepsy. We discussed how epilepsy patients sometimes have a tendency to be violent or to incite violence. Gondal and I then went through various Quranic verses as well as hadith which document Muhammad’s violence, the vigilantism, and forced conversions of prisoners of war that Muhammad encouraged. We also discussed the Banu Qurayza massacre.

This episode was very eye-opening and I invite you to take a listen. 

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Here are the previous episodes in this series:

Part 1: https://youtu.be/WlO4nZUGVf4

Part 2: https://youtu.be/ZI16w6Sl3DE

Part 3: https://youtu.be/fD4FyXSN96k

Part 4: https://youtu.be/Z-IgOnBCv3U

Timestamp:

0:00 Introductions

3:15 Muhammad the narcissist – Dr. Ali Sina.

13:00 Another chest opening incident – hadith

14:35 Muhammad’s delusions – A green screen covering the horizon, the seal of the prophet?

17:25 The holy spittle, holy sweat, urine, and poop of Muhammad.

25:40 A tree that sees genies? People manipulating Muhammad.

29:10 Talking cows and wolves. The vision of nations in the sky.

31:05 More of Muhammad’s hallucinations – hanging out with Gabriel,  riding during the funeral.

35:13 Comments from the live chat.

37:53 Muhammad reports seeing 12 angels rushing around the mosque – hadith.

39:45 Disappointment after being stood up by Muhammad.

41:22 Sick Muhammad imagines angel Gabriel visiting him, Gabriel came down to lead Muhammad in prayer?

48:58 Allah and Gabriel praise Khadija, Muhammad chocking Satan.

52:44 Muhammad’s auditory and visual hallucinations.

55:00 Genies request Muhammad to stop wiping with bones and dung, communicating with genies

57:13 Muhammad recites Surah Rahman to the genies

59:18 Angels hate onions and garlic?

1:03:20 Comments from the live chat.

1:04:45 Hypergraphia and temporal lobe epilepsy – Dr. Abbas

1:09:13 Psycho Quran – the theme of extreme torture in the first 5 revealed chapters.

1:14:45 Muhammad’s hypergraphia – Dr. Dede Korkut

1:17:26 Contemporary cases of hypergraphia.

1:22:06 The Quranic compositions degraded in rhyme as Muhammad aged – Dr. Abbas

1:27:06 Violence and epilepsy – Dr. Abbas. Massacre of Banu Qurayza.

1:40:36 How challenging delusional patients cause them to be more irritable – Dr. Abbas.

1:42:40 Muhammad the murderer, vigilantism, and forced conversions of prisoners of war to Islam.

1:48:19 Scrupulosity, OCD, and epilepsy.

1:59:54 A quick recap of the stream and preview of the upcoming episode.

References:

  1. Another chest-splitting incident? – Jami at-Tirmidhi Vol 5 bk 44 hadith 3346

2. A green screen covering the horizon – Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 6, bk 60, hadith 380

3. The seal of prophethood –  Sahih al-Bukhari 190, bk 4, hadith 56; Ash-Shama’il al-Muhammadiyah 22, bk 2, hadith 7; Jami at-Tirmidhi bk49

4. The holy spittle – Sahih al-Bukhari 189, bk 4, hadith 55; Sahih al-Bukhari 188, bk 4, hadith 54; Sahih al-Bukhari 2731, bk 54, hadith 19; Sahih Muslim 2497 bk 44 hadith 236

5. Companions drinking Muhammad’s urine and blood – https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/3034/the-authenticity-of-the-hadeeth-stating-that-people-drank-the-urine-and-blood-of-the-prophet

https://www.islamieducation.com/purity-and-cure-in-the-prophets-urine/

  1. The holy sweat – Sahih al-Bukhari 6281, bk 79, hadith 55; Sunan an-Nasa’i 5371 bk48 hadith 332
  2. A tree that sees genies? -Sahih al-Bukhari 3859, bk 63, hadith 85
  3. Talking cows and wolves – Sahih al-Bukhari 3471, bk 60, hadith 138
  4. Muhammad hanging out with angels – Sahih Muslim 806, bk 6, hadith 305
  5. Angels running around the mosque waiting for prayer – Suman Ibn Majah 801, bk 4, hadith 67
  6. Muhammad hallucinates one of his friends flying to heaven – Jami at-Tirmidhi Vol 1, bk 46, hadith 3763
  7. Riding during funerals – Sunan Abi Dawud 3177, Bk 21, hadith 89
  8. 12 angels running around the Mosque – Sunan an-Nasa’i 901, bk 11, hadith 26
  9. Muhammad being stood up by angel Gabriel – Sahih Muslim 2104a, bk37, hadith 126
  10. Muhammad’s imaginary friend Gabriel visits him and prays for him – Sahih Muslim 2186, bk 39, hadith 54
  11. Muhammed being led in prayer by Gabriel – Sahih Muslim 610a, bk 5, hadith 213
  12. Allah and Gabriel praise Khadija – Sahih al-Bukhari 3820, bk 63, hadith 46
  13. Satan appears in front of Muhammad while praying – Sahih al-Bukhari 1210, bk 21, hadith 14
  14. Dead people being tortured in their graves – Sahih al-Bukhari 216, bk 4, hadith 82
  15. Muhammad’s visions of heaven and hell – Sahih al-Bukhari 749, bk 10, hadith 143
  16. Genies request Muhammad to stop wiping with their food – Sunan Abi Dawud 39, bk 1, hadith 39
  17. Muhammad recites Surah Rahman to the genies – Jami at-Tirmidhi Vol 5, bk 44, hadith 3291
  18. Angels hate onion and garlic – Sahih Muslim 564a, bk 5, hadith 90; Sahih Muslim 564c, bk 5, hadith 92; Sunan an-Nasa’i 708, bk 8, hadith 21; Sunan Ibn Majah 3363, bk 29, hadith 113
  19. Psycho Quran – Alaq, Nun, Muzamil, Mudathir, Masad
  20. Muhammad’s hypergraphia –  Life Alert: The Medical Case of Muhammad  p67-68 by Dr. Dede Korkut
  21. Hypergraphia for poetry in an epileptic patient – https://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/jnp.17.4.560
  22. Viscosity and social cohesion in temporal lobe epilepsy – https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/55/2/149.short
  23. Compulsive versifying after treatment of transient epileptic amnesia – https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13554794.2014.953178
  24. Hypergraphia in patients similar to Muhammad –   Life Alert: The Medical Case of Muhammad  p185 by Dr. Dede Korkut
  25. I want to die over and over again – Sahih al-Bukhari 7227, bk 94, hadith 2; Muwwata Malik bk 21, hadith 27
  26. Paradise is under the shade of the sword? – Sahih al-Bukhari 2818, bk 56, hadith 34; Sunan Ibn Majah 72, Vol 1, bk 1, hadith 72; Riyad as-Salihin 1302, bk 11, hadith 18; Sunan an-Nasa’i 3969, bk 37, hadith 4

Quran 2/216;  3/151;  8/39; 9/73; 9/29; 47/35; 47/4; 8/12; 33/61

  1. Terrorism is help from God? -Sahih Muslim 523a, bk 5, hadith 7; Sunan an-Nasa’i 3089, bk 25, hadith 5; Sahih Muslim 523b, bk 5, hadith 8; Sunan an-Nasa’i 3087, bk 25 hadith 3
  2. The massacre of Banu Qurayza – Sunan an-Nasa’i 3429, bk 27, hadith 41; Sunan Ibn Majah 2541, bk 20, hadith 9; Seerah Ibn Kathir – The life of Muhammad p484  
  3. Muhammad the murderer – Sahih al-Bukhari 4038, bk 64, hadith 85; Seerah Ibn Ishaq – The life of Muhammad p675 – 676; Sahih al-Bukhari 3032, bk 56, hadith 239; Sahih al-Bukhari 3031, bk 56, hadith 238; Sunan Abi Dawud 4361, bk 40, hadith 11; Sunan an-Nasa’i 4070, bk 37 hadith 105
  4. Kill any Jews? Tabari Vol 7, hadith 1372 – 1373; Seerah Ibn Ishaq – The life of Muhammad p369; Seerah Ibn Kathir – The life of the Prophet Muhammad p10
  5. Kill the apostates and atheists – Sahih al-Bukhari 6930, bk 88, hadith 12; Sahih al-Bukhari 6922, bk 88, hadith 5; Jami at-Tirmidhi 1458, bk 17, hadith 42; Sunan an-Nasa’i 4064, bk 37, hadith 99; Sunan Ibn Majah 2535, bk 20, hadith 3
  6. Scrupulosity – https://iocdf.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/IOCDF-Scrupulosity-Fact-Sheet.pdf
  7. Epilepsy and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181953/
  8. Gabriel shows Muhammad how to do ablution – Mishkat al-Masabih 366, bk 3, hadith 77; Mishkat al-Masabih 410, bk 3, hadith 115
  9. Gabriel showed Muhammad how to perform prayer – Sahih Muslim 610a, book 5, hadith 213, Sahih Muslim 610b, book 5, hadith 214
  10. Obsessively cleaning teeth – Sahih al-Bukhari 244, bk 10, hadith 110; Sahih al-Bukhari 887, bk 11, hadith 12; Sahih al-Bukhari 4438, bk 64, hadith 459; Sunan Ibn Majah 289, bk 1, hadith 23; Sunan Abi Dawud 51, bk 1, hadith 51; 
  11. Repeating phrases all the time – Sahih al-Bukhari 6244, bk 79, hadith 18; Sahih Muslim 87, bk 1, hadith 165; Sahih Muslim 596b – c, bk 5, hadith 187; Sahih Muslim 1794c, bk 32, hadith 133

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